whaaat? how did you do it?! willing to send isk ;P

fisters unite

Shockers United? 1 in stink fist in the ?

Nobody remembers the vid of the Asian kid that can punch WHILE cloaked? Did that ever get addressed, or can you still run around and OHK people and uncloak after you've killed them? You also didn't need to switch from your cloak device, so it was always out and ready for you cloak again.

This sounds really really bad.

Nova Knives have better hit detection

Wait, Jadek, are you a Captain Falcon main?

That damage is equivalent to getting a shotgun to the face.

why is this thread so popular?

Begs the question:

Why not make weapons optional?

So two months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmX0h7ok-Sc

Ahh, it's a good day on the forums I see.

you still need knifes if you dont want the heavy to turn kill you after your first punch, just saying.

Reported for bumping thread!

I just love how Ratty has evolved with the games evolution.

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Lets melee together:)

I mostly get the "4 melee, no damage" feature when I try melee fits. Working great on your side tho! GG !

HELLZ NO.

The hit detection is just as bad as anything else in this game.

I've come to terms with this a long time ago.

Additionally, DUST is no place for Dhalsim and his stretchy arms of death!

1230hp Damage Complex Biotic Melee = 24,405 ISK [No Weapons or Equipment, the suit is the weapon]
-Range: 1m
-2 hits per second (if sidearm or equipment is held)
-2460 DPS
-No Charge time (can use while sprinting toward target)
-Stamina Pool Management (Melee strikes on their own drain a negligible amount when you have Complex Cardiac Regs equipped; these increase stamina recharge by 100%. Sprinting drains stamina quickly.)

Fitting Cost 192 CPU & 31 PGU
Includes:
-Adv Minmatar Commando Frame
-3x Complex Myofibril Stimulants
-1x Complex Cardiac Reg
-1x Complex

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Ishukone Nova Knives = 12,975 ISK
460hp Damage - lvl5 Base Uncharged
920hp Damage - lvl5 Charged Attack
1276hp Damage - lvl5 Min Scout lvl5 Charged Attack

Range: 2.5
Charge: 0.6 Seconds
DPS Range:
-1533hp/s equipped on any suit
-2126hp/s equipped on minmatar scout with race bonus active
Fitting Cost:
48 CPU & 7 PG

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The Minmatar Commando dishes out an extra 334 damage above that of a Min Scout with knives. The melee user can simply keep taping the melee button whilst the nova knife user must gauge the timing on when the charge meter is filled. A melee user however, must be very mindful of their stamina gauge. Sprinting is key to closing the distance on melee attacks, however if you expend all your stamina by the time you reach a target you will not be able to use your melee. The player may however still use their weapon; however, general movement and melee attack speed are faster with either a sidearm or equipment active compared to a light weapon.

Both Complex Biotics and Proto Knives are already above the killing potential needed to kill a heavy suit in 1-2 hits. While the Min Commando has a profile sig between 55-49db and a much larger hitbox than the Min Scout, the Min Commando has mobility with the Myo Stims to jump around and tank decent dps from a single target while in a berserk charge. This is effective for taking on a heavy under reps as the repping player is without an equipped weapon. The Min Commando will die very quickly when faced against 2 or more opponents with hit scan weapons like the Assault Combat Riffle or Burst Assault Riffle. Players standing over repair hives are much better suited to engage a melee commando threat.

The melee-centric focus of the Min Commando is more costly and more fitting intensive that what is needed of a Min Scout or any other suit wielding Ishukone Nova Knives. Those fitting slots may be used by ehp mods or profile dampeners, increasing the likelihood of approaching a target for a kill.

So excited!

*wets pants*

Oh! and let me remind everyone that if you are standing on a tank and blow it up, you get glitched out a bit and can't see what is going on around you momentarilly. It looks like the map dissappears around you

Whoa! Should I just hand over my space keys?

I think my point was that even using a sub-optimal fit, I am maintaining hard-hitting power, with plenty of capability of follow-up attacks...and I'm not saying it needs a heavy nerf...but like many people, I feel that Myos should have a stamina cost increase associated with both punching and jumping (not necessarily a proportional cost increase either...just something to offset it)